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he can't get to the fourth quarter -- >> we'll see what obama shows up in two weeks. >> who will win this thursday? joe biden has got to win, because the tie goes i think to the other guy. >> i think it's a tie. >> i think biden will win. i think he's a terrific debater. i think a lot of people underestimate him. >> not you, not me. thank you both. >>> coming up, unmasking the so-called mitt. he pulled a classic et asketch last week. when is president obama going to stop talking about big bird and go after the big stuff and the other guy? >>> also the war in the west, senate races in north dakota, montana, nevada and arizona, they're all toss-ups. tonight a democrat making a, richard carmona is here. >>> and jon stewart takes on the jobbers, the right-leaning conspiracy theorists who say the unemployment numbers were sent in from obama headquarters in chicago. >> it's a [ bleep ] recipe. it's like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >>> finally let me finish with the real differences between these two candidates. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ fishing rod casting line,
he can't get to the fourth quarter -- >> we'll see what obama shows up in two weeks. >> who will win this thursday? joe biden has got to win, because the tie goes i think to the other guy. >> i think it's a tie. >> i think biden will win. i think he's a terrific debater. i think a lot of people underestimate him. >> not you, not me. thank you both. >>> coming up, unmasking the so-called mitt. he pulled a classic et asketch last week. when is president...
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four weeks to sell the country on the difference between obama and romney on the big issues of our times. time to attack. time to remind voters who rode to the rescue -- who did ride to the rescue of the american auto industry and who stood out there telling it to go bankrupt. time to attack. which candidate fought to get equal pay for equal work for women so no girl in america will ever grow up thinking her time, her sweat is worth less than a boy's? time to attack. which candidate saw 40 million people uninsured americans dragging themselves to sit for hours in emergency rooms across the country? he saw it, obama did, and refused to let it stay that way through yet another presidency. mitt romney saw the way things were and said he wants to keep things that way. if you don't have shoorns, tough. go get a seat with the other victims and moochers. well, this is where romney's vulnerable, where obama can come charging from his ground of strength. now is the time. romney taken to task for his positions so far from the american mainstream. i'm joined by democrat strategist bob shrum and for
four weeks to sell the country on the difference between obama and romney on the big issues of our times. time to attack. time to remind voters who rode to the rescue -- who did ride to the rescue of the american auto industry and who stood out there telling it to go bankrupt. time to attack. which candidate fought to get equal pay for equal work for women so no girl in america will ever grow up thinking her time, her sweat is worth less than a boy's? time to attack. which candidate saw 40...
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the obama campaign has been saying for weeks, the romney campaign as well, that they expect this race to get tighter as we get closer to election day so we're essentially seeing that play out in real time. you just mentioned that cnn/orc poll that effectively proves that. a lot of people will say that is because of the debate. mitt romney continues to gain momentum in the wake of the debate. president obama was off to a strong start here in ohio. the unemployment rate lower than the national average. the folks here really like the auto bailout, one out of every eight ohioans has a connection to the auto industry. so a lot of ohioans were expressing support for him, but now obviously things are getting tighter, martin. >> nbc's kristin welker fighting will.i.am very valiantly. thank you very much, kristin. we'll be right back. ♪ this is love, this is love, this is love ♪ [ female announcer ] most whitening strips promise full whitening results in two weeks or more. rembrandt® deeply white™ 2 hour whitening kit is proven to quickly remove surface stains and deep stains in just tw
the obama campaign has been saying for weeks, the romney campaign as well, that they expect this race to get tighter as we get closer to election day so we're essentially seeing that play out in real time. you just mentioned that cnn/orc poll that effectively proves that. a lot of people will say that is because of the debate. mitt romney continues to gain momentum in the wake of the debate. president obama was off to a strong start here in ohio. the unemployment rate lower than the national...
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>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama. nothing has fundamentally changed. if things keep move inning this direction and this just isn't a reaction to one very bad night for obama last week, well, then, we talk about something else. it's not clear that's what happened yet. >> don't tell that to andrew sullivan, because he is having a breakdown in "the daily beast" today. he laments what he calls devastating new positill numberd he calls the president too air grant to take a core campaign responsibility too seriously, too arrogant to give his supporters kwwhat they deserve.
>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama....
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we're talking with team obama in chicago. let's play it. >> they feel just as good about where they are today as they did two weeks ago. they said clearly public polling shows change, they don't see any fundamental change in the race whatsoever. >> is that wishful thinking or accurate read? obviously, andrew sullivan is an obama supporter but he's a conservative. he's trying to look for a silver lining, and he feels that it's been disastrous. that's one person's opinion. what's yours? >> i was at the jets game last name -- >> boo. you should only go to cowboys games. what's wrong with snu. >> people booed mark sanchez in the first quarter of the game. >> wonder why? >> this is a team that has a losing season. the contrast is with barack obama he's on a winning team. they've run a perfect reply flawless campaign. he had one bad debate performance, and now everybody is ready to throw up their hands in fear. people have to settle down and focus on the fundamentals like michael was talking about a moment ago of the six states in
we're talking with team obama in chicago. let's play it. >> they feel just as good about where they are today as they did two weeks ago. they said clearly public polling shows change, they don't see any fundamental change in the race whatsoever. >> is that wishful thinking or accurate read? obviously, andrew sullivan is an obama supporter but he's a conservative. he's trying to look for a silver lining, and he feels that it's been disastrous. that's one person's opinion. what's...
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it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north caro
it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that...
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exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest
exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest
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. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me sean spicer, ron fournier, the journal editor in teach and jimmy williams and hogan gibbly. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. radish stew. i'm kidding. something more than radish stew with 28 days to go team romney is etch a sketching the etch a sketch as the romney fortifies the wall of obfuscation. we will examine his latest recalibration. the obama camp gives it the bi
. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's...
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to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of romney's supporters now back him strongly. 82% say they're giving a lot of thought to this election. this was a guy who going into his convention, and not the most successful convention, either, was still having trouble getting people really excited about his campaign. has he turned that around? >> you know, there's two things here. i mean, we talked about this all the way going up to the debate how important that debate was, and it was very important for mitt romney, and now we're seeing the benefits for him, that he had a really good debate. the othe
to turn this around for romney in the final weeks. what we're seeing now i think is that may not be the case and the october surprise everyone always talks about is, in fact, that we're back where we were in the spring. it's a very close race. >> and in fact, to the point of both of the campaigns, they've been saying all along they thought in the end this was going to be a very tight race, but some of the numbers that really jump out for me, jackie, are enthusiasm and engagement. 67% of...
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one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. i've got to ask you the big question, are you for the nats or for the orioles? >> i've got to be for the nats, although we're a mixed marriage. my wife was born in baltimore. >> oh. >> not an ill word can be said about the baltimore orioles in my house. >> yeah. >> nonetheless, i'm following the nats and cheering the nats. but, you know, the orioles are playing the yankees last night and beat them. you've got to root against the yankees, right? >> of course you do. if you love -- well, i mean, only if you love america. >> yes, right. >> i do love america. >> you do lo
one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc...
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four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president obama back in the lead at 50 to 45. what a difference from the other poll. that's exactly where the race stood before the debate. romney had surged in the tracking poll. the two candidates were actually tied in the three days immediately after the debate, but the president seems to have wiped out romney's gains in the gallup poll. joining me right now are howard fineman, editorial director of the "huffington post," and the honorable michael nutter, mayor of philadelphia and presidential surrogate in this tough campaign. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. always go to the elected official first. mr. mayor, what needs to be done right now to right this ship, to get obama back on a winning course? >> well, the president is on a winning course and as you laid out earlier, chris, with all the things that mitt romney either lied about or denied about -- what we call that in philadelphia is just l
four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the last seven days. gallup has president obama back in the lead at 50 to 45. what a difference from the other poll. that's exactly where the race stood before the debate. romney had surged in the tracking poll. the two candidates were actually tied in the three days immediately after the debate, but the president seems to have wiped out romney's gains in the gallup poll. joining me right...
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either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicar
either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto...
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in lass week's debate and an opportunity to see going forward is the promise of this election for obama was that he could use this to create a public dialogue about the issue of taxing the wealthy. it has been 22 years now since a single republican member of congress has voted for a tax increase of any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say this is what they want. if you're going to, it will include a tax component on the wealthy. >> if obama campaigns on that and wins and if democrats hold the senate and make gains in the house, that could ratchet up pressure on republicans to make some kind of deal. otherwise, you have the other thing. it's a myth that nothing is going to happen in the lame duck, because if they take democrat off and congress doesn't show up, a lot will happen. december 31st, the expiration of the bush tax cuts. they go away if nothing happens. something ahas to happen. >> i find it extremely rich to hear john boehn
in lass week's debate and an opportunity to see going forward is the promise of this election for obama was that he could use this to create a public dialogue about the issue of taxing the wealthy. it has been 22 years now since a single republican member of congress has voted for a tax increase of any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say...
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build his momentum from last week's debate, and president obama focusing on the american people who carried him forward despite mistakes made in 2008. one new poll was released in just the past hour. that is the new gallup daily tracking poll. it shows president obama and mitt romney now tied 47%. romney erasing the 5-point lead the president had before the debates. right now president obama is about to make modern history. the president is in california where he'll unveil a national monument in horne of cesar chavez who led the farm worker monument. it's the first national monument since the 1700s to horne the latino. the latino vote is heavily skewed towards the president, but the issue is enthusiasm. we know this visit today in california with this national monument is a big one for the president. as for governor romney, he took direct aim at president obama's handling of foreign policy during his speech at the military institute in virginia. it's the tenth foreign policy speech of romney's campaign. >> when we look at the middle east today, with iran closer than ever to nuclear weapons
build his momentum from last week's debate, and president obama focusing on the american people who carried him forward despite mistakes made in 2008. one new poll was released in just the past hour. that is the new gallup daily tracking poll. it shows president obama and mitt romney now tied 47%. romney erasing the 5-point lead the president had before the debates. right now president obama is about to make modern history. the president is in california where he'll unveil a national monument...
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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is preparing for a co comeback and joking about the last performance. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and they just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and robert costa. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> so, what do you think? does this poll give the obama campaign something to worry about? what do you think, perry? >> i think the debate performance gave them something to worry about. you have seen democrats very strongly critical of his debate performance. the poll itself shows the race
mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is...
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last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were stunned, upset they hadn't been granted a meeting until after the decision. why did the decision get rushed? presidential politic, the influence of those florida growers might have played just a small role. michael isakoff is nbc's national investigative correspondent. it's an election year and hearing about issues like this, oh, favoritism of this front for florida. favoritism on that front for ohio. it shouldn't come as a shock and yet, we see it play out every year. four years, excuse me. >> this is a fascinating look about how to use the levers of power of incumbency to help yourself in an ele
last week, the obama administration announced it favored canceling a 16-year-old $3.5 billion tomato trade deal with mexico. the deal encourages imports and has kept tomato prices low. but florida growers say they're so low they can't catch up. the numbers show mexican tomato sales have quadruple since 2000 while florida has seen its cut shrink dramatically. after a flurry of letters from lawmakers, the commerce department decided to repd the trade agreement be scrapped. mexico growers were...
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by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the republicans look desperate. but yes, overall, i think the debate had a terrible impact for the president and one that i think is surprisingly lasting. >> yeah, why is that? >> well, because a lot of people were watching and because you're wondering why things don't work in washington. and when you see two people go head to head and you see it be so starkly clear stylistically, you kind of wonder if that is brought home. >> that the president's disconnect -- >> yeah. so there's a lot of work to be done in the next debate. i mean, a lot of work. he's going to have to get his hands dirty. >> i take it if we're hearing th
by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the...
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and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that snaps it back is this feeling of things aren't -- >> the race was always going to be close. i don't think anybody would deny that. but let's be clear. let's look at where we've come. 800,000 jobs were being lost the first time the president read the unemployment report. i know these are just statistics for people in washington. that's real lives in america. 31 consecutive months of positive job growth. are we growing as fast as we'd like to? no. but it takes a long time to dig out of this avalanche of tremendously bad decisions that preceded the obama presidency. and let's understand this. one thing they saw i
and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that...
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the obama team obviously knows they had a poor showing in last week's debate. so they've got to gain some traction here. booiden is a really good debate. i think you'll see ryan be mr. wonky. that's his role. a lot of numbers you'll hear from him. probably more zingers from biden. i think they have some ground to make up. >> you know, i don't think a lot of people necessarily realize how much debating joe biden has done throughout the course of his career. he's run for president six or seven times. i exaggerate for effect. chair of the foreign relations committee. here's a guy who's spent a great deal of time in public in a healthy exchange of ideas. >> that's right. that's right. i think we'll see that on display. if you look back at 2008, he was probably the best debater out of the field. i think he's going to bring those skills to bear. he had a real high-wire act last time in 2008 when he had to go against sarah palin. i think he came out of that debate looking like the statesman. i think ryan has to pass the commander in chief test. i'm not sure if when pe
the obama team obviously knows they had a poor showing in last week's debate. so they've got to gain some traction here. booiden is a really good debate. i think you'll see ryan be mr. wonky. that's his role. a lot of numbers you'll hear from him. probably more zingers from biden. i think they have some ground to make up. >> you know, i don't think a lot of people necessarily realize how much debating joe biden has done throughout the course of his career. he's run for president six or...
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we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the hispanic, and the whole clan. watch for the sound bite to be very moving. >> do you think -- >> paul ryan has -- is an intellect, and joe biden is a consummate pro. so i think you will see a really spirited one. so you will have joe biden throwing punches and paul ryan punching back. and in fact, if you're going to have a pop corn debate, one that doesn't bore you. first of all, while mitt romney was pretty good, it was boring, this one should be very fascinating. >> we'll have you back, thank you. >>> and ever since mitt romney talked about firing bi
we'll see how the polls go this week. and he is going, president obama, monday, to california for caesar chavez. he signed an executive order to say this is where chavez is buried. it is going to be part of our national park service. >> where -- >> yeah, it is la paz, and he will be there with the widow of caesar cheavez, the widow. and mitt romney screwed up, when he was a let hard on the mexican-american vote. you see president obama making a big play with ken salazar, the...
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how many times did obama miss in the debate this week to pin romney down on the specific question of okay, you want to cut taxes across the board, you want to be deficit neutral and you have a broad promise to close loopholes and deductions. let's spell ought out what the deductions are. let's specify mitt romney which ones you say you'll go after and which ones you'll protect. biden is really -- i think you're right. ryan we see in this campaign, interviews he had something new. follow-up questions. >> when we come back, we're going to talk more about this. we know there's a problem of biden bromance. i want to know whether or not paul ryan is willing to go hard in for mitt romney. i'm going to gargle during the break. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. and
how many times did obama miss in the debate this week to pin romney down on the specific question of okay, you want to cut taxes across the board, you want to be deficit neutral and you have a broad promise to close loopholes and deductions. let's spell ought out what the deductions are. let's specify mitt romney which ones you say you'll go after and which ones you'll protect. biden is really -- i think you're right. ryan we see in this campaign, interviews he had something new. follow-up...
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things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill 200 theaters. when you watch the presidential debates, ask yourself, who has a plan to stop gun violence? let's demand a plan. it didn't get an area. joining us is comedian chris. john warner and rebecca, contributor to the magazine. i feel of two minds about the debate. focus is good. depth is good. i was appreciative they allowed depth on the issues they talked about, but frustrates there's only so many of these. one is foreign policy. in terms of domestic policy, the next debate is basically it and the vice president debate. i feel t
things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will...
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as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will outperform the expectations for him on thursday night. >> well, to both of you, what are paul ryan's strengths and weaknesses going into this debate? >> i think probably his strengths is that he is a fresh face. that gives a lot of opportunity coming into something where you can introduce yourself to the country. and on a big stage, the downside i think for paul vine the inexperience on such a stage. he's really not only been on the national stage debating, but even on a congressional level, he hasn't had a competitive race since his first one in 1996. so i think he's
as i said, of course vice president biden is spending the week at his home. but paul ryan, i would point out, has gone to his home in janisville, wisconsin, fairly frequently as being picked as romney's running mate so he can do this debate prep. but i would say the expectations are much higher for paul ryan going into the debate than they are for joe biden, which, as we know, when expectations are higher, then that candidate can tend to have a bigger problem. so i think joe biden probably will...
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"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the first touch of the white stuff. not much accumulation but frigid with lows falling into the 20s. nbc meteorologist stephanie abrams has news about the rest of the country. >> big changes across a big chunk of the country. there's a solid cold front. we have that rain and clouds right now extending anywhere from the northeast all the way back down to the south. that is the weathermaker. ahead of that, warm temperatures. behind it cold temperatures. take a quick screen grab of that. as i change the graphic you're going to see those temperatures in the 60s all the way u
"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the...
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earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting them, but this ruling that the pennsylvania voter i.d. law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it'
earlier in the week, the pennsylvania judge ruling that voter i.d. rules, they can't be imment impleme implemented. how does that affect another key state? >> people were worried the pennsylvania voter i.d. law could make the pennsylvania contest a little closer than the polls subject. right now president obama in most polls in the keystone state is up in high double digits. this could disproportion knitly affect minorities and others seen to be democratic voters, could end up hurting...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and appl
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. >>> the next debate is the vice presidential debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. it is set for next thursday. vice president biden's debate practice sessions he's got democratic congressman chris van hollen of maryland playing the role of paul ryan for the purpose of practice. in mr. ryan's debate practices the role of vice president joe biden is being played by celebrated conservative attorney and former george w. bush solicitor general ted olson. ted olson is not your average former bush administration official. he is the former bush administration official who's been leading the legal effort to overturn california's ban on gay marriage and maybe every state's ban on gay marriage. he is very, very, very, very co
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. >>> the next debate is the vice presidential debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. it is set for next thursday. vice president biden's debate...
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romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a better chance to grow. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and you can trade all our etfs online, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 commission
romney's stand-in for president obama is ohio senator rob portman. today i spent the morning with the man who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#:...
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i have reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is the no going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> i'm just going back because it seemed like you were doing that. let me go to keith hall. he was bush's guy, commissioner of the bls. he said to "the wall street journal" today following what you said, there's no way someone at the bureau of labor statistics could change any data from its surveys. these numbers are good. so why do you know more than him? do you really -- i think it gets back to the question of integrity. do you believe that the bls lacks integrity? that a president of the united states -- nixon said he could never get to them. he used to say there's an et
i have reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is the no going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the...
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. >>> many people thought this week president obama wouldvy strong debate performance that would be erased by a weak jobs number, but it's the opposite. the jobs report is in easing concern about obama's weak debate. nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has
. >>> many people thought this week president obama wouldvy strong debate performance that would be erased by a weak jobs number, but it's the opposite. the jobs report is in easing concern about obama's weak debate. nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a...
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we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >> which is lacking from the debate the other night. >> correct. what romney does not have an opportunity to do is make a concerted, passionate argument about how bad things are and how much worse this administration has made them. you can have an open argument about how much better they could and who has a better glide path to that future, and hopefully that's what we get in the next four weeks, right? you can't do this is terrible and this is made worse by this administration. >> let's talk about the jobs have been added, health care, transportation, leisure, hospitality and construction as well. 16,000 jobs lo
we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >>...
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he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who has totally different plans than he really has said in the past. >> does this mean the president has fulfilled his promise to get unemployment below 8% and this isn't a one-term proposition? >> you know, you can't deny the numbers. 7.8% is, in fact, lower than 8%, and that's kind of the benchmark that the republicans have laid out. i'm sure they are extremely disappointed that there are better job numbers in the united states of america because they have been trying to sabotage any efforts, every day i see it in the congress, they have been trying to sabotage
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>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning
>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at...
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it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> breaking news. the jobs numbers are out the lowest since january of 2009. >> 7.8%. that politically is great news. however, you got to scratch your heads. 114,000 nonfarm jobs added. you have to have 150,000 just to keep up with population growth. i'm not an economist but this has to mean that more and more people, miles nadal, are discouraged and have just stopped looking for work. if you're not even having enough jobs created to keep up with population growth, and t
it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy...
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on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> that the romney campaign's post-debate message from their national campaign co-chair. the president is lazy and not that bright. here was the obama campaign's post-debate message. >> the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. never heard of them. and he said, if that's true, he must need a new accountant. so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in mov
on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> that the romney campaign's post-debate message from their national campaign co-chair. the president is lazy and not that bright. here was the obama campaign's post-debate message. >> the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of outsourcing jobs to other countries. but the guy on stage last night, he said he'd never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship...
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barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate. >> meanwhile, paul ryan is pretending that he is not memorizing lines. >> you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe what i believe and i do what i do and believe in the policies that we are providing, pursuing, at the end of the day i'm going to go in there and be me. >> crystal, let's look at paul ryan going with his gutt with chris wallace. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> it is too long. it is complicated. i don't want to talk about. i mean, joe biden is not going to have any fear of being aggressive. if
barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate....
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. >> you don't think there will be a better prepared president obama on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> lazy. not that bright. this is the president of the united states he's talking about. he was pressed about .comment. >> did you really need to call the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> now, we've seen this disrespect right from day one. it cannot be tolerated. mitt romney must denounce a n sununu's ugly talk. joining me now, opinion writer from the "washington post," and victoria defrancesco, a fellow at the university of texas and an msnbc contributor. thanks both of you for being here tonight. jonathan, calling the president lazy. how does governor romney allow this to be said on his behalf? >> he just allows to be said. this isn't the first time governor sununu has said impertinent things about the president.
. >> you don't think there will be a better prepared president obama on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> lazy. not that bright. this is the president of the united states he's talking about. he was pressed about .comment. >> did you really need to call the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do...
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possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john sununu several months ago say he doesn't understand what it is to be an american, which he tried to backtrack on that again. again andrea mitchell tried to give him a chance to save himself. time and again we have heard these kinds of attacks that, you know what? john sununu should just keep saying it. every time they say it, a further galvanizes our side. if that's what you really think of the president, go ahead and keep saying it because it only helps us. >> karen, finney, professor james piterson, thank you for joining us. next. was mr. romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking a
possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john sununu several months ago say he doesn't understand what it is to be an american, which he tried to backtrack on that again. again andrea mitchell tried to give him a chance to save himself. time and again we have heard these kinds of attacks that, you know what? john sununu should just keep saying it. every time they say it, a further galvanizes our side. if that's what you...
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. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation. >> want to repeal dodd/frank? >> and replace it. we're not going to get rid of regulation. some parts of dodd/frank that make all of the sense in the world. >> and back in june, romney mocked the president's crazy ideas about needing more teachers for the nation's classrooms. >> he says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the mess naj wisconsin? the american people did. >> last night romney became a crusader for -- wait for it -- teachers. >> i love great schools. massachusetts, our schools are ranged number one of all 50 states. and the key to great schools, great teachers. so i reject the ide
. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation....
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isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest of seniors here in the country as it related to medicare and he was somebody concerned, in my opinion, about the middle class about doing what's right in terms of going forward in terms of diversifying our resources. i know people say this morning that maybe romney was attacking and energetic and all of that sort of thing, but what i saw in the president was somebody who knew his facts, kept his cool, presented himself in a presidential way and i thought did a fine job. we have to realize there's two more of these debates to go. and i don't know that the president necessarily wanted to unload everything in de
isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest...
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it's going to be a long two weeks before the next debate in new york for team obama. and of course, it all happened right here in battleground, colorado. it's a state that's been trending quickly from red to purple in recent years. will the first debate keep it from going blue again for the president and going back to red? good morning again from the university of denver. thursday, october 4th. 2012. this is "daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. a big hour ahead, including daily reaction from orrin hatch, governor martin o'malley and many more. let's get to the first read of the morning. in what may be the most substantive debate in the era of televised presidential debates. mitt romney performed as if his campaign depended on it, while a surprisingly subdued president obama allowed his challenger to dictate the terms of the debate. from the start, romney displayed confidence and demanding the presence on stage. he oned up the president on his own wedding anniversary shoutout. >> i want to wish you, sweetie, happy anniversary. >> congratligss on your anniversary. i'm sure
it's going to be a long two weeks before the next debate in new york for team obama. and of course, it all happened right here in battleground, colorado. it's a state that's been trending quickly from red to purple in recent years. will the first debate keep it from going blue again for the president and going back to red? good morning again from the university of denver. thursday, october 4th. 2012. this is "daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. a big hour ahead, including daily reaction...